Srebrenica “men and boys” Was it a genocide?

Did the Bosnian Serb Army have a right to engage the column of “Srebrenica men and boys,” as Western media have labeled it? Were these helpless, disarmed people, trying to run away to save their lives or was it a military formation doing a hostile military manoeuvre?

Let us get as close to the source of information as possible. Let the top Bosnian Muslim generals, themselves, once again, tell the truth.

Clinton needs 5,000 Muslims dead
Bosnian Muslim leader tries to provide

Documents on this page all come from the testimonies given by the Muslim generals Sefer Halilovic and Enver Hadzihasanovic at the Hague. On one of our previous pages the same generals claimed that they had no intention to honor the disarmament agreement. They even did their best to arm Srebrenica war criminals.

Let us see what they said, out of their own free will, about the attempted retreat of Srebrenica Muslim Army.

Srebrenica Muslims left to their destiny

Thursday, 5 April 2001
The Hague Proceedings,
Case against Serbian General Krstic
pp 9452, 9454:

JUDGE RODRIGUES: [Interpretation] General, to move on to the attack on Srebrenica, do you have an idea when the Bosniak [i.e. Muslim] authorities, civilian or military, learnt of the attack on the Srebrenica enclave by the [Bosnian] Serb forces, and in particular, when were they informed of the transfer of the population, the capture…? When did they learn of this? And the BH army [Muslim] forces, did they have military materiel and manpower to prevent the attack or to launch a counter-attack?

Muslim General, Sefer Halilovic: In the [Muslim controlled] Danimagazine published in 1998 as a special edition, Dani┬ámagazine, under the title of “How They Sold Out Srebrenica and Retained Power,” this was an article written by Mr. Hecimovic, a journalist, he quotes a series of testimonies from the meeting of the SDA [Bosnian Muslim Party] Main Board in Zenica…

Hecimovic at that time was a journalist and he was a close collaborator of the [Bosnian Muslim] prime minister, Mr. Haris Silajdzic, prime minister of Bosnia-Herzegovina, therefore, he was in a position to know at firsthand what was happening there.

I later learnt that the command of the 2nd Corps and the General Staff knew when the operation on Srebrenica started, but from a series of testimonies, the people who were in Srebrenica, both from military and political structures, we can clearly see that they [Srebrenica Muslims] asked for help, both of the command of the 2nd Corps and the command of the General Staff and [Muslim] President Izetbegovic, but that they did not receive that assistance. To answer your question whether they had the power and materiel to help, to come to the help of Srebrenica, I think that they did…

JUDGE RODRIGUES: [Interpretation] Yes, General. Perhaps we could now move on more specifically to the column, the issue of the column. In general terms, what information do you dispose of with respect to the column, the formation of the column, the evolution of the column, and everything else with respect to the column, how it was pierced?

General Sefer Halilovic: From what I learnt talking to people who were in the enclave, that is to say, in Srebrenica, but also from the discussions I had with members of the [Muslim] General Staff, I learnt that, in fact, the General Staff and the presidency did not have any information as to the direction taken by the column from Srebrenica. They reported back once but did not communicate after that, so that in practical terms, the first information as to the direction of the column, whether it was moving towards Zepa or Kladanj or Tuzla, reached them only when the first parts of the column began to appear along the Tuzla axis, which means that along that route of horror from Srebrenica to Tuzla, they were not assisted in any way [by the main Muslim forces]. No aid was provided.

Why was there no aid provided? The answer may come from Bosnian Muslim fundamentalist leader Alija Izetbegovic:

Allah does not count victims


The above quote is from:
The Islamic Declaration
book by Alija Izetbegovic
First printed in Sarajevo in 1970,
reprinted 1990, page 53

Bill Clinton needs
at least 5,000 Srebrenica victims
Dutch documentary reveals the trap

Thursday, 5 April 2001
The Hague Proceedings, pp 9474, 9475:

Defense council of Serbian General Krstic, Mr. Petrusic, addresses General Halilovic: General, do you know Hakija Meholjic? Have you heard of him?

Muslim General, Sefer Halilovic: I met him in 1999 or 2000 perhaps, after having read some of his statements in the press.

Mr. Petrusic: General, he was chief of police in Srebrenica in 1995, or rather, in the period of the safe area until the end of the war. Is that so, for the record?

General Halilovic: As far as I know, yes.

Mr. Petrusic: [Interpretation] I should now like to ask the technical booth to play a short video film of some 10 minutes. It is a video film made by Dutch television, after which I will have a few questions for the General, General Halilovic.

“The International Community
needed the genocide!!!”

Thursday, 5 April 2001
The Hague Proceedings, starting on page 9480:

From tape presented:
[Muslim official] Hakija Meholjic [INTERPRETER Voiceover]:
THE INTERPRETER: [Voiceover] “A meeting with American president Clinton, Alija [Izetbegovic] was telling us about the offer of Clinton. Chetniks [ment as derogatory for Serbs] would take Srebrenica and kill 5.000 Muslims, and then there will be a military intervention, and what did we think about that? And we rejected that. We didn’t think it was normal that 5.000 people would be slaughtered.”

[Dutch narrator(?)]: That the American president would have suggested that Serbs would enter Srebrenica and to kill Muslims in order to justify an intervention would be too absurd, but from the UN research, it now seems that this is not too awkward. Some surviving members of the Srebrenica delegation have stated that President Izetbegovic also told them that he had learned that a NATO intervention in Bosnia-Herzegovina was possible but could only occur if the Serbs which would break into Srebrenica are killing at least 5.000 of its people.

We talked about an exchange and the exchange of Srebrenica for other territories.

UN report: The delegation opposed the idea and the subject was not discussed further.

[Hakija Meholjic]: In negotiations we will demand that the maps will be corrected in the Bosnian parliament, that the Bosnian Republic will get Muslim territory along the Drina. The delegation is — imposed secrecy. The exchange of territories is not — it was not abolished. We agreed to meet the next day. But after our meeting with Izetbegovic, people started to be bribed. People were taken everywhere. Men came that I didn’t know and they made propositions. I’ve seen those men, but never again afterwards.

They spoke individually with us or in groups, sitting at a table. I was sitting at a table together with Mehovic, and they asked us what we thought about Srebrenica for [Sarajevo, Serb held suburb of] Vogosca, exchanging for Srebrenica for Vogosca, and Zepa for Ilijas [also suburb of Sarajevo]. In case I would not accept the exchange, I could be liquidated, so I returned with the delegation to Srebrenica.

General Halilovic was aware of the meeting between Izetbegovic and the delegation. According to him, the president spoke also with other representatives of Srebrenica. Izetbegovic offered to exchange Srebrenica for Zepa, for neighbourhoods in Sarajevo, Vogosca, Ilijas and Ilidza. We rejected that. Only half a year after Srebrenica was proclaimed a safe area, it is the Muslim government that discusses the destiny of the Muslim population in Srebrenica. Did Sarajevo sacrifice Srebrenica in 1993?

Answer: I think so, yes.

Interview of the Dutch Defence Ministry for [unintelligible]…

The question is: Would the Dutch government have sent DutchBat if they had known that the Muslims were considering the secret proposal and maybe have accepted that? Broskij, acting commander of DutchBat, says that this would have been decisive. This is Broskij, the acting commander:

Well, the situation would have been different for the Dutch government in that case. I’m certain of that… we would not have been sent in that case.

Early 1995, after a year of relative quiet, tensions increase in the enclave. February, a year and a half after the issue of exchange of territory was discussed — they’re talking about a discussion with Naser Oric. The one general refuses to take Oric with him. Early April 1995 Oric would have managed to speak to Izetbegovic and to discuss his presumptions. In the General Staff, according to this man, there was a meeting between Oric and Izetbegovic.

I heard from Naser that those two were together in one room during that night. Naser told me that himself. Everything indicates that Oric’s fears were confirmed. Oric is back from Kakanj, but then he[Naser Oric] leaves for good from the enclave and he orders the deputy commander to come with him. After that, he told me, I don’t know the exact number, but he sent about 20 officers away, known fighters who participated in heavy fighting. They were trusted by the soldiers and by the people. Each of them could easily gather a hundred people with them that were willing and able to die, able to die. He sent them away to [military] study, to follow an education. Sources confirm that Oric left on his own initiative. The soldiers spoke to Oric just before Oric left. He said he would come back. He said that he would come back and arrange something for our enclave.

The man who had been in the centre of attention for four years left in silence. DutchBat and the UN left — knew that Oric has been in safety for three months only after the fall of Srebrenica.

Is this his biggest secret? Answer: Probably. His secret and Izetbegovic’s secret.

Dutch deputy commander: He was a very strong leader.

The people, he really — he was a very strong force behind his brigades, at the moment such a commander, at least, and case is complete. People panicked, especially women, children, and elderly, so the weaker groups. And the… army that was left started to panic. We saw that there was no more leadership, and we had obviously been abandoned…

Then something strange happened.

Muslim soldiers leave the enclave and plunder the [Serbian] village of Visnjica just behind the defence line. The order came from Sarajevo to change the pressure on the front. In the meeting, I resisted. This could not happen because this would cause problems. The village was very unimportant.

Still the order was given, and the guys in Srebrenica followed the order.

Why, for goodness’ sake? Houses were burned. The attack was led by one of Oric’s former allies, former associates.

11th of July, 1995, Serbs take the enclave. The Muslims separated. Women and children are bused to safety.

The men stay behind.

The remaining army, the remaining part of the army flees through the woods to [Muslim held] Tuzla… The International Community needed the genocide…

[End of the Dutch documentary.]

Mr. Petrusic: [Interpretation] Thank you, Mr. President.

Mr. Petrusic: General, sir, you will agree that the man on this video clip speaking about the alleged agreement of Alija Izetbegovic on the liquidation of 5.000 Muslims was Hakija Meholjic; am I right in saying that? For the record, you assert that it was Hakija Meholjic?

General Halilovic: Yes, that’s right. It was Hakija Meholjic.

Izetbegovic: Srebrenica people – not my people

Thursday, 5 April 2001
The Hague Proceedings, pp 9487, 9488:

Mr. Petrusic: And finally, General, I’m going to quote one more sentence, page 134 of your book, and I quote: “According to an interview with Holbrooke, Izetbegovic in January 1995 was ready to hand over Srebrenica to the Serbs in the context of a broader solution of the peace question and in order to retain Sarajevo intact. He said that they were not his, and he did not care about that. Mark Dunner [phoen] recorded Holbrooke’s statement on that occasion.”

When you say he did not care about that, that they were not his people, do you mean “he” being Alija Izetbegovic? Is that the “he” you’re referring to? …

General Halilovic: Here it states precisely that it refers to Mr. Izetbegovic, and there is no need for us to deduce anything. It says so clearly.

Were Muslim men a military target?

We see from the study presented on one of our previous pages that top Muslim generals Halilovic and Hadzihasanovic easily admit that they had no intention to honor the disarmament of Srebrenica agreement. They even did their best to arm Srebrenica war criminals.

The two generals inform us that Srebrenica Muslims, already in April 1993, are organized in well formed military unit (the 28th Division), numbering 5.803 people. The “disarmament” scam left them quite well armed. The generals were able to admit that the unit had 1.947 automatic rifles, 27 submachine-guns, 15 machine-guns, 68 hand-held rocket launchers, all kinds of mortars, anti-armour, anti-missile, anti-aircraft launchers, rockets, guns…

This is not your L.A. street gang.

But this was in April 1993 and thanks to the demilitarization agreement given to them by their Western allies the Muslim generals did their best to arm Srebrenica criminals more. The generals admit that they sent, in front of the besieging Serbian noses, eight helicopters filled with arms and ammunition.

So, these are the people who formed a column trying to break trough 100km deep, well defended Serb-held territory.

We called their attempt a suicide run.

The entire 28th Division
on the march!

Friday, 6 April 2001
The same, page 9527, 9528:

Muslim General, Enver Hadzihasanovic: I know that on the 11th of July [1995], almost all members of the army gathered in the village of Susnjari.

In addition to the military, as far as I know and according to the information that I have, there were about 7.000 civilians in that village. There was a very small number of women there, not more than ten, I think. So on the 11th of July, in the evening, the division command, together with the municipal authorities, on their own initiative decided to move in a column and try and leave the area of the protected zone in the direction of the free territory around Tuzla. I think that that decision was taken around 2200 hours on the 11th of July.

According to the statement by the late [Muslim] Chief of Staff with whom I had an opportunity to talk, Mr. Becirovic, I think that was his name, the column consisted between 12.000 and 15.000 people and almost the complete composition, the complete division was there, that is, 5.500 to 6.000 troops…

Only half of the armed force
survives the suicide march!

Thursday, 5 April 2001
The same, page 9490:

JUDGE [FOUAD] RIAD: …What was the percentage of fighters or of military people in the column, if you know about it?

Muslim General, Sefer Halilovic: I can’t say exactly what the percentage of military people was compared to the civilians in the column, but after the breakthrough from the encirclement — from the enclave, rather, several days later I saw a review of the 28th Division in Tuzla, and there were about 3.000 soldiers, 3.000 fighters amongst them, and the information media claimed that they came from the enclave to Tuzla together with the column.

JUDGE RIAD: And have you an idea how strongly they were armed in the column?

General Sefer Halilovic: The soldiers who were in the column together with the civilians were armed with light infantry weapons. That was shown during the review and ceremony [!!!] held in Tuzla seven or eight days later, after they had broken through, after they had exited.

JUDGE RIAD: And were they in a position to fight, to fight back?

General Sefer Halilovic: Their position was a highly precarious one, and according to what I learnt, once again from the information media, they had to walk for a very long time and were very tired. They were exhausted, and a large number did not reach Tuzla at all, so that they were not in a position to defend themselves, to fight.

Of course, they were in “precarious position” and they could not defend themselves very efficiently. That was the whole point of the above mentioned Bill Clinton’s plan of obtaining 5,000 Islam martyrs.

This is how the column looked when they arrived. The following photograph was presented in The New York Times on Friday, July 21, 1995, Page A8. The subtitle reads: “Bosnian Government soldiers from the enclave of Srebrenica, which fell to the Serbs last week, stopped for a rest Wednesday near the Government-held town of Kalesija. The soldiers had trekked for days through Serb-held territory, carrying their wounded with them”.

Srebrenica 28th Division arrives –
with Western machine-guns on their sholders

American armed Islam terrorists
Did you notice the German made, Heckler & Koch G3A3 semi-automatic rifles these Islamic war criminals and terrorists have? The rifle fires the 7.62 x 51 mm NATO cartridge. This kind of weaponry was never (ever) seen before in ex-Communist Yugoslavia. How did this Srebrenica soldier obtain it? Srebrenica was completely encircled by the Serbs from the very first days of the war. What was the content of American “humanitarian” operation “parachute?”

As said before, American Pentagon supplied arms, even Arab mujahedin fighters to “demilitarized” Srebrenica.

Criminally irresponsible
the Muslims involve civilians
in suicide military act

Friday, 6 April 2001
The same, page 9528:

Muslim General, Enver Hadzihasanovic: It was decided that the column should go along the axis Konjevic Polje-Bratunac moving along the ridges west of that axis, and that the asphalt road be crossed over in the area between Konjevic Polje and Nova Kasaba and that they should continue towards Tuzla after crossing the tarmac on that spot. The length of the column, according to the information that I have, was between 12 and 15 kilometres, and the time span was about two and a half hours from the head and the tail of the column. They started on the 11th of July around midnight.

As far as I could note, it was structured as follows: The head of the column consisted of elements of the 284th Brigade who were followed by the 280th Brigade and I know that the Chief of Staff told me that he was amongst the members of that unit. Then followed civilians together with the military, and the last element of the column was the independent battalion which was also part of the 28th Division.

through mountains and hell!

Friday, 6 April 2001
The same, page 9528 – 9531:

Muslim General, Enver Hadzihasanovic: Before they reached the asphalt road at Konjevic Polje towards Vlasenica, an artillery attack was launched against the second half of the column. Fire was opened from various kinds of artillery weapons on the tail of the column, and the head of the column realised that there was nobody on the tarmac road. They had started crossing the road on that spot, not knowing that the second half of the column was, in the meantime, exposed to a fierce attack, artillery attack. That was on the 12th of July. I think that about 80 or 100 people managed to cross the tarmac road, that is one-third of the column.

After that, some APCs and a tank, I believe, arrived and the Serb forces pierced the column on that spot. So the first third of the column managed to cross the asphalt road, and they were waiting to see what would happen with the rest of the column. However, throughout that day, the second half of the column was exposed to heavy shooting and shelling, and during the night, they probably thought that other members of the column would also cross the road, but nobody did so they decided to move on. I know that because the Chief of Staff who told me about this was with that portion of the column.

They continued towards the Udrc mount where they assembled, and at that point in time they sent a group of people back to the asphalt road to wait and see whether anybody else would cross over, but they had to return because no one was crossing the road any more. So on the 13th of July, they continued on their way across the Udrc mount in the direction of Kalesija that is towards the Kalesija-Zvornik asphalt road.

On that part of the road, they were ambushed on several occasions. There were fatalities and casualties there, and on the 14th of July or the 15th, they reached the area of the village of Medzedza, that is the area of Crni Vrh, which is a hill near Kalesija.

On the 15th of July, they tried to leave the area of Crni Vrh [Black Peak] and the wider area is called Parlog. They tried to move closer to the [Muslim held] front lines but they were ambushed again [by the Bosnian Serbs] so they had to go back and they spent the night there. In the afternoon hours of the 15th of July, they selected a large group of people who then fought with the Serbs at one point in time, but they were unable to do anything. So on the 15th of July in the evening hours, they went back to the same spot to spend the night.

On the 16th of July, in a similar way with a group of people, they attempted once again a breakthrough and at that point in time, the communication was established with the [Muslim] front line through a walkie-talkie so the Corps Command, at that time, was already familiar with the spot where they could be expected to come out. In the early morning hours of the 16th of July, the front line was finally pierced by the elements of the 24th Division and the 212th Brigade.

As for the other side, they were moving from the rear of the front and they managed to pierce the line along the distance of one and a half kilometres, and the civilians and the military which was with that group started entering the free area at that spot. However, as regards the asphalt road between Konjevic Polje and Vlasenica, in that area, there were very few people left, only an individual here and there who managed to go through.

Later on, people who survived and who managed to come out told us that it was like a manhunt in that area near the asphalt road coming from Srebrenica going towards Kravica, Konjevic Polje, and then further on from Konjevic Polje towards Vlasenica near Kasaba. So that region was the theatre of a fierce manhunt, and I know that they were collecting people at three locations. One of them was the stadium near Nova Kasaba. The second one was a farm, agricultural farm in the village of Kravica. The third location was an elementary school or part of a factory in Kravica.

If you were a Serb sitting in your village burned down to the ground by Srebrenica Muslims, when you hear that they are coming your way, full force, thousands of them, well armed, would you consider them a military target? They murdered your old mother who barely survived them the first time 50 years ago when they were on Hitler’s side and in Nazi SS uniforms. They mutilated and murdered some of your neighbors. More than 2,000 Serbs by this time were slaughtered by these criminals. They roasted some Serbs, as if they were animals, alive, on the spit, slit throats of others, chopped off heads…

Do you wait for them to appear in front of your house or do you shell them with all you got? Do you trap them in the woods or do you wait to see whether they would, in passing by, murder your wife and children?

As they come to you, by thousands, the best armed ones first, do you check to see who is armed and who is not and shoot only on those who are? Before you shoot, as they shoot at you, do you ask whether anyone in the approaching crowd is younger than 21?

It is the well deserved justice what these criminals are afraid of. That is why they did not want to surrender, not even under supervision of U.N., but it is truly criminal if they brought civilians, maybe even some young boys, on this path of death. Why should the Serbs be guilty if some of these, maybe innocent people, died?

The Western estimate was that too few Srebrenica Muslims died in this hostile, suicidal military act. Again, Bill Clinton needed at least 5,000 Srebrenica Muslims dead so he can pretend to be a humanitarian and unleash the full power of NATO/Nazi force on the Bosnian Christian Serbs’ heads.

No problem. The West, with their Islam fundamentalist allies will find many creative ways to lie about how many people died on the zig-zag, back and forth, Muslim attempt to break through Serbian controlled forests and mountains.

Western media will repeat their lies, as if they were true. The best Western experts were sent to dig, haven and earth in areas broad around Srebrenica, and try to find material evidence, any evidence, to the claim that the Serbs performed mass execution of Srebrenica Muslims. Years of digging could bring no result. No problem. The Western culture slipped so far back into dark ages that not one person would be burned on a stake after a false accusation of being a witch. A whole nation, will be accused of no less than genocide and then this false accusation not supported by ANY evidence would be used as an excuse for all-out punishment in form of mass-bombing (using depleted Uranium), expulsion of at least million Serbs (from Krajina and Western Bosnia) from everything they ever owned…

One of the first tricks implemented was to hide some Muslim survivors of the above events and then declare them dead.

The original page for the above quotes, for General Halilovic’s statements, can be found at “UN” web site at this address.

General Hadzihasanovic’s statements, are at this address.